Minutes of the November 3-5 CLAS Collaboration Meeting

	The agenda, together with the ppt or pdf files for some of the talks, 
are available on the web. I will not summarize the talks here, but report some 
elements of discussion.

* Publications:
	- The chairman received one complaint from a collaborator not having 
received one of the mails addressed on Oct. 5 to clas_members concerning the 
collaboration wide review of the first g11 paper (now submitted). In order to 
avoid such mishaps, the collaboration web page will include a list of papers 
currently under collaboration wide reviews, so that any collaborator looking 
at it once a week could not miss it.
	- The chairman would like to remind the ad-hoc collaboration review 
committees that, in addition to their review, they are supposed to examine the 
collaborators comments during the two weeks or so of collaboration wide review, 
check that all comments are satisfactorily addressed and if need be settle any 
dispute.

* High energy operation:
	Hall B may be the hall with most experiments requiring 6 GeV (or 
slightly less) CEBAF operation. Yet, both because of scheduling issues and of 
a number of cryomodules to be refurbished, these experiments either have to 
compromise on the beam energy, or have to await better times (2007).
	Hari Areti explained, among other things, that the refurbishing of 
cryomodules is very labor intensive, and thus linked with budget and priorities.
	It was suggested to put together a list of physics motivations 
for a 6 GeV operation and press this upon the lab management. However, 
in a separate discussion with Larry Cardman, I was kindly reminded that, in a 
world of budget constraints, insisting on high energy operation may result in 
cuts for other hardware developments in Hall B (FROST, etc...). So the 
collaboration should take this into consideration as well.

* CLAS Approved Analyses
	The 3 CAA presented were approved unanimously.

* Proposals to PAC29:
	8 proposals are in the works (1 in jeopardy). Some were discussed in a 
PWG, 2 were presented in the plenary session. The CCC is concerned by the 
unusually large amount of beam time request which could result. The CCC 
recommends to the PWG review committees for individual proposals and to all of 
us in the final process to set very high standards for the evaluation of these 
proposals (see chairman's mail to clas_members on Nov. 8).

* Kim Egiyan's presentation on "Today's nucleonic picture of nuclei"
	In addition to the nice work presented and about to be published, note 
that an article by M. Strikman will be published in a coming issue of the CERN 
Courrier.

* Andy Sandorfi's presentation on "N* experiments with polarized HD"
	A proposal for PAC30 is in preparation, with CLAS and BNL collaborators.
Open to all collaborators interested. 

* Polarized parton distributions in nuclei: we had an interesting discussion
(Tony Thomas's talk was more general about medium effects on nucleons). There
are projects in Hall A (polarized Xe) and in Hall B (Li7H) but these are
veru challenging experiments.

* Update on g8: a pleasure to see such a happy collaborator (P. Cole) on
a successfull run.

* Pentaquarks. In addition to the JLab Workshop summary, there was a discussion
about ongoing analyses. The first g11 paper was just submitted and the first
g10 paper will be written soon. For both of these, and only for these, the
special Pentaquark Review Committee of five, chaired by R. Schumacher, 
is playing the role of both PWG and adhoc collaboration review committees.
All other analyses and papers to come from these experiments (provided
no exotic signal is claimed) will undergo the normal review process.
The CCC also recommends to gather several results in few comprehensive
papers (in other words, not one publication per channel analyzed).

* Membership (see MC summary for names)
	- 3 new limited members (OKed by CCC):
	- 6 new term members (entering probation - OKed by CCC)
	- 11 new term members (finishing probation - OKed by MC):
	- 1 new full member (by collaboration vote on Nov. 5)

* CLAS12 Committee: among other things, Gail underlined present work
where help is needed: GEANT4 simulations (see M. Ito's mail of Nov. 7)
and Vertex detector. Also the PAC may consider proposals for 12 GeV as 
early as the summer 2006 (PAC30).

* CLAS Speaker Committee: the statistics for talks seem to be
decreasing. The CSC thinks this is not real. But it may look
pretty bad if looked upon by funding agencies. PLEASE again,
notify the CSC when you give a talk.