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Hi all, we should be careful when discussing the "wiggle problem". There 
are potentially a number of sources for "theta wiggles" and they depend 
on the specific configuration, e.g. inbending vs outbending electrons. 
(If you do see wiggles for non-electron tracks ignore the following, as 
such effects are more likely related to DC tracking aspects.)

A 2 degree wiggle pattern seen for electrons can be the result of 
inefficiencies of the Cerenkov counter due to the mirror system. Since 
we have 18 mirrors covering about 9 - 45 degrees in geometrical angles, 
i.e. 36 degrees in Delta(theta) you do expect something like a 2deg. 
oscillation pattern just from the geometry of the mirror system if 
inefficient regions, such as fringes have not been eliminated carefully. 
This is particularly important for or out-bending electrons.  I order to 
study the problem in for electrons in detail I suggest to make the 
following selections:

1) Look at in-bending electrons: Make narrow fiducial cuts that make 
absolutely sure that you avoid the fringe regions of the Cerenkov 
counter. Make a cut around the sector mid-plane to eliminate events near 
the mid-plane where the efficiency is known to be somewhat lower than in 
other regions. Then look for wiggles at fixed momentum.

2) Look at outbending electrons in eg1a,b: Here it is hard to avoid 
seeing wiggles from Cerenkov counter inefficiencies as the Cerenkov has 
been designed biased toward high efficiency for in-bending tracks and as 
a result has significant inefficiencies due to the mirror arrangement.  
This pattern has been studied by Vipuli in her PhD thesis and fiducial 
cuts have been developed to correct for it. This should, of course, not 
be the case for eg4 as this Cerenkov detector has specifically be 
designed for out-bending electrons, i.e. wiggles in eg4 must have a 
different origin.


A wiggle pattern that is very different from 2 degree , or is seen for 
pions, is likely not related to the Cerenkov counter but more to effects 
that Sebastian mentioned earlier.

Volker


 

  Sebastian Kuhn wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> sorry for this "spam" mail, but several people have expressed interest 
> in our findings about "theta oscillations", which may be relevant also 
> for E4 and E1-DVCS.
>
> Shortly, the problem seems to be that with some CLAS experiments (with 
> targets upstream of the regular target position?), there is a clear 
> pattern in the angular distribution of scattered electrons (other 
> particles remain to be checked), in particular if one selects a tight 
> momentum region (e.g., 2.0 GeV/c - 2.2 GeV/c). This pattern can 
> (sometimes) be seen in theta-reconstructed as well as theta at the 
> first DC superlayer and sometimes even for various projections of y or 
> theta on the scintillator or EC plane.
>
> This problem was originally encountered during the analysis of EG1a 
> (see my message below for relevant links). Some additional plots can 
> be found at
> http://www.jlab.org/Hall-B/secure/eg1/jyun/ecyi.gif
> http://www.jlab.org/Hall-B/secure/eg1/alex/waves/oscillations.html
> http://www.jlab.org/Hall-B/secure/eg1/tforest/Wiggle/Wiggle.html (for 
> explanation)
>
> The most recent analysis on EG1b data is from Nevzat Guler - see
> http://www.jlab.org/Hall-B/secure/eg1/EG2000/nevzat/ThetaWigglePage_wfid/thetaWiggle.html 
>
> Slava Tkachenko has looked at this for BoNuS - see
> http://www.jlab.org/~slava/Check44/Check44_18/ThetaEL/0227/
>
> It is not clear what exactly is happening, but the most likely 
> explanation is that tracks are getting shifted out of the "valleys" 
> into the "peaks", leading to wrong theta assignment by about 1-2 
> degrees. (It is less likely that the valleys are just inefficiencies). 
> This may or may not affect inclusive data, but it might be useful to 
> ascertain this for each experiment.
>
> - Sebastian
>
>
> Sebastian Kuhn wrote:
>> Dear (former) EG1ers (and especially "oldtimers"),
>>
>> I am trying to remember what our final conclusion was regarding the 
>> infamous "wiggle/theta oscillation" problem with EG1a - see 
>> http://www.jlab.org/ccc/mail_archives/CLAS/eg1_run/msg00274.html to 
>> jog your memory. I went through all my accumulated notes but couldn't 
>> find any conclusive solution (and my memory is just not as good as it 
>> used to be... ;-)
>> It appears possible that we have a similar problem in EG1b, see
>> http://www.jlab.org/Hall-B/secure/eg1/EG2000/sharon/theta_compare/theta_compare_5_6.gif 
>> (and BoNuS, for that matter! -> 
>> http://www.jlab.org/~slava/Check44/Check44_18/ThetaEL/thetael_raw_0211_44_1_pre_el5gev.jpg 
>> ).
>>
>> Any recollections are welcome - Sebastian