Attendees: Ashot, Chao G., Chao P., Maxime, Mahbub, Weizhi, Xuefei, Xinzhan, Hayian, Nilanga, Jian, Dipangkar Xuefei: - finishing paper - new plots showing bias and variance for several models and filter Weizhi: - poissonian smearing with photon conversion factor -> Poisson and Gauss really close -> simu>data in bad LG region - test of change of LG material in simu - S shape in energy vs theta -> needs correction (Maxime) - Energy loss at transition -> Cherenkov simulation (Chao Gu) - super ratio in different quadrants: close but some difference in the slope